Discussion: Begging

I read the log on begging in discussions, here is a short summary and my thoughts:

Almost immediately, the views expressed were that slaves should beg for *all* things. Two conflicting thoughts from the slaves were that begging should be learned best under pressure and swiftly, while another felt it should be learned best by desire, for begging was what a slave does.

Even the thought of begging to ask a question was brought up. I know from personal experience that if I asked if I could ask a question every time I had a question that Master would just give me the fuzzy eyeball. There is a time and a place to beg to speak openly I think, or even to ask to speak at all, but once granted, I think it best to just get on with the talking.

I think the exception *is* silence. I could see where being silenced would reverse this whole process, and in fact he has mentioned that he will want me to be silenced by his will for some time so that I can concentrate a little bit on speech, or how I reflect -online as well.

The discussion continued with begging to approach *after* a drink had been ordered. It was well decided that this was a bit too much, and Master agrees, saying if he ordered the drink then of course he expects a girl to bring it back to him. It was also discussed about begging to enter, then entering, and *then* begging to speak and greet. Again, I think being granted entrance includes the ability to greet and speak -unless silenced. Everyone seemed to agree you should ask to PM when online - unless it was by order of business for an Op to not ask but simply do so. I know as a slave I generally ask the Free, but not other slaves. I had not considered before how that might be perceived as rude, esp. if the slave was not allowed to receive PMs. As Master told me I would be belted and silenced, I will not be able to receive PMs from anyone but a select few in the beginning, I am starting to see that I should probably start asking other slaves too.

The subject of begging *not* to do something came up, and I feel it's appropriate to beg to not have to do something for several reasons. First, it allows the Free to know I would rather not do something without me whining about it. Second, it expresses clearly my desires. Third, and the most important is they don't have to listen to me or grant my request... it just puts it out there so they know which I know Master likes to know everything and nearly every thought if phrased appropriately. I think there is a limit on what you should beg not to do, however and this should really be used sparingly for serious things -not on a whim. This was mentioned in the discussion as well.

The discussion then went into a "what to do if you are ordered to do something in contrast to your owner's wishes." I know some girls are trained to X-out of the windows if pressed on going against her owner's wishes. Master has made it clear to me that I am to be pleasing to all Free, as much as possible, even ones in life who may not know I am a slave - this is not always easy though. Still on the topic of online, if a Free wishes me to modify my actions I am to take note of their preferences and do it since Master says nearly everything online is only "window dressing," as it were. The only exceptions seem to be using me sexually for a cyber-fling when I am belted/restricted. Though Master did say that I am belted when sexually restricted and most men know how to respect that -and if there is an attempt at "picking the lock" or other some such thing and I am alone to simply X-out then. There is very little that Master feels is set in stone when it comes to online service, so there is not a lot of problems there, but I feel that yes if Master has told me specifically *not* to do a thing, then it would warrent me to beg someone that I not do so, otherwise it's all up in the air.

Begging to me is something a slave does, but without over doing it. Used sparingly when begging to not do things, it can useful for the Free to know how the girl feels about certain things, or even how her owner feels about it. A slave knows when she should beg, or when she shouldn't usually, but it takes less than a second for a Free person to glance at a girl, and with a look, let her know she should be begging at once!!